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		<title>By: UK / Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.balkingpoints.com/balk/archives/921#comment-1709</link>
		<dc:creator>UK / Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to each respondent. Marika; I have never known what to make of power of prayer findings. Do you think it could pertain to the ill within earshot, the comatose perhaps?

And for Sammy; this demilitarised state idea in the Middle East is a fantastic goal, which should have been incorporated in the U.N. charter when Brits conceded the territory in 1947. Here below is the Wikipedia page on that process;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

As you can see it was supposed to create autonomous Jewish and Arab states, with economic cooperation. But they failed to keep the weapons out, obviously. And imposed solutions even whilst well-intentioned, remain imposed, and therefore vulnerable to breakdown. Such a demilitarised approach may have engendered a totally different future for both this territory and the Middle East. A haven for dissidents and disenfranchised from all over the region or the world perhaps. (The successful emergence of the United States, happened on just such grounds)

Perhaps it still may once a legitimate peace and settlement process is restarted. It must be done with the assist of the U.N. and not it&#039;s heavy hand this time. But the U.N. Security Council nations, might guarantee the protection and preservation of the co-existing states against outside aggressors if ever materialised, in exchange for the agreement of both sides to stand down their military and para-military operations. That should I believe, have happened originally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to each respondent. Marika; I have never known what to make of power of prayer findings. Do you think it could pertain to the ill within earshot, the comatose perhaps?</p>
<p>And for Sammy; this demilitarised state idea in the Middle East is a fantastic goal, which should have been incorporated in the U.N. charter when Brits conceded the territory in 1947. Here below is the Wikipedia page on that process;</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine"  rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine</a></p>
<p>As you can see it was supposed to create autonomous Jewish and Arab states, with economic cooperation. But they failed to keep the weapons out, obviously. And imposed solutions even whilst well-intentioned, remain imposed, and therefore vulnerable to breakdown. Such a demilitarised approach may have engendered a totally different future for both this territory and the Middle East. A haven for dissidents and disenfranchised from all over the region or the world perhaps. (The successful emergence of the United States, happened on just such grounds)</p>
<p>Perhaps it still may once a legitimate peace and settlement process is restarted. It must be done with the assist of the U.N. and not it&#8217;s heavy hand this time. But the U.N. Security Council nations, might guarantee the protection and preservation of the co-existing states against outside aggressors if ever materialised, in exchange for the agreement of both sides to stand down their military and para-military operations. That should I believe, have happened originally.</p>
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		<title>By: USA / Roy G</title>
		<link>http://www.balkingpoints.com/balk/archives/921#comment-1708</link>
		<dc:creator>USA / Roy G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent remarks Sammy &amp; Rebecca, both IMO.

I also see the elephant in the room as the Israel as presently governed. There is no denying the imbalance in weaponry, nor the aggressive anti-peace posture of the Netanyahu administration. There are many liberal/progressives both within Israel and the United States, who oppose this posture and want to get on with a legitimate land-for-peace process. 

Israel&#039;s Labor Party can and does win power at times, yet the electorate remains sharply divided, with a very intense and vocal ultra-right wing component. This keeps moderates and independents off balance, and hesitant to enter the tent of the Progressives whom would effect peace and progress. And in reflection Labor leaders are passified and timid, afraid of the wrath of that vocal minority of voters. &lt;strong&gt;This exact dynamic is also the case in present-day America.&lt;/strong&gt;

That said, each nation remains responsible for it&#039;s own human right record, including the United States of course. And part of human rights is indeed free speech, political expression and democratic self-determination. While 
I always view Western media reports with an expectation of sensationalist slant, I have little doubt that a fundamentalist religious regime would arrest and jail dissenters. More properly said, the Iran Guardian Council and Supreme Leader Khamenei. For that is the ruling political core, to which Ahmadinejad is the vocal figurehead.

Not unlike the Bush Jr. years in America...   ;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent remarks Sammy &amp; Rebecca, both IMO.</p>
<p>I also see the elephant in the room as the Israel as presently governed. There is no denying the imbalance in weaponry, nor the aggressive anti-peace posture of the Netanyahu administration. There are many liberal/progressives both within Israel and the United States, who oppose this posture and want to get on with a legitimate land-for-peace process. </p>
<p>Israel&#8217;s Labor Party can and does win power at times, yet the electorate remains sharply divided, with a very intense and vocal ultra-right wing component. This keeps moderates and independents off balance, and hesitant to enter the tent of the Progressives whom would effect peace and progress. And in reflection Labor leaders are passified and timid, afraid of the wrath of that vocal minority of voters. <strong>This exact dynamic is also the case in present-day America.</strong></p>
<p>That said, each nation remains responsible for it&#8217;s own human right record, including the United States of course. And part of human rights is indeed free speech, political expression and democratic self-determination. While<br />
I always view Western media reports with an expectation of sensationalist slant, I have little doubt that a fundamentalist religious regime would arrest and jail dissenters. More properly said, the Iran Guardian Council and Supreme Leader Khamenei. For that is the ruling political core, to which Ahmadinejad is the vocal figurehead.</p>
<p>Not unlike the Bush Jr. years in America&#8230;   ;^)</p>
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		<title>By: USA / R. Marika Markle</title>
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		<dc:creator>USA / R. Marika Markle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I see that Iran is now convicting political prisoners of being &quot;enemies of God&quot;.  That&#039;s nuclear.  I don&#039;t know if you all believe in a global consciousness  ...I do.  We know that studies have been done that show when people pray for the sick, the sick tend to do better.  In fact, it&#039;s not even prayer.  It&#039;s awareness.  Please think of those who are imprisoned tonight, those awaiting execution, those who are oppressed.  Stand with them.  Don&#039;t forget them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I see that Iran is now convicting political prisoners of being &#8220;enemies of God&#8221;.  That&#8217;s nuclear.  I don&#8217;t know if you all believe in a global consciousness  &#8230;I do.  We know that studies have been done that show when people pray for the sick, the sick tend to do better.  In fact, it&#8217;s not even prayer.  It&#8217;s awareness.  Please think of those who are imprisoned tonight, those awaiting execution, those who are oppressed.  Stand with them.  Don&#8217;t forget them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy from Sicily</title>
		<link>http://www.balkingpoints.com/balk/archives/921#comment-1706</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy from Sicily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The general problem in the Middle East is not Iran. But it is a question of survival for many small
countries that are living in fear of the mighty Israel, that is there to expand and eventually take over
the whole Middle East and its oil resources.

Of course Israel is a very powerful country with modern technological weapons, that with a batter of 
an eye can destroy and take over the whole area. Under the false pretenses of regaining their promised land.

Let us  take into consideration that Israel has many nuclear warheads in its arsenal, which have been 
supplied by western countries, and I do believe that this has been, and can be a threat to the whole middle east.
Infact since the state of Israel was illegally established in 1948. It has destabilized the status quo of the whole 
middle east There have been nothing but killings, genocide, border disputes, reprisals, human rights abuses, constant
bickering, mass corruption. Mind you,  I have nothing against Israel, but in my opinion, the state of Israel was erected 
on stolen land. And I believe this problem will never be resolved until, this stolen land will be returned to its
rightful owners.

Maybe Iran, has started its nuclear program as a precaution to defend itself against a possible attack
from Israel. Or it could be that it really has the intention to use its atomic energy for peaceful use. This
we will never know. What their real intentions are.

But in all fairnes this whole problem can be resolved  through the UN, by abolishing all nuclear arsenals
and create a fearless atmosphere, across  severe controls by the UN.  And  permit   nuclear energy to be 
used for  producing electricity only.

And at the sametime a real concrete solution must be enacted for resolving the exsistence of the state of Israel.
Either the state will be abolished through legal manuvers by the UN. Or create a neutral demiliterized  state. under
the control of the UN. Or establishing a state where freedom will exist. Freedom of religion, freedom for all those
who want to break away from their age old culture and start a new life under a democratic system. Something like
being another US state. Where there would be justice and freedom for all, And I believe that many who are dissatisfied
with their way of life in their countries  would surely populate it. It would be a place to escape for many dissidents who
are fighting a needles battle to try and change the old age mentality of their countries that they live in. 

By having this spearhead head of a freedom existing state in the middle east, eventually the old age mentality of other states being 
repressive would lose its  hold on its people.  I believe that freedom of choice, human rights, free elections, separation between 
religion and state. Would be a very powerful lethal arm against dictators, human rights abusers, repressive laws which deny
the basic human rights, as well as fanatical religious indoctrination that control people&#039;s mind to promote evil towards their fellow
man who do not believe in  their way of worship.

Well.these are my free opinions, some may be realistic, and some may be part of my fantasy. But it is important that we are still
free to express them. And I wish that all would have this same privilege.

Sammy From Sicily</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general problem in the Middle East is not Iran. But it is a question of survival for many small<br />
countries that are living in fear of the mighty Israel, that is there to expand and eventually take over<br />
the whole Middle East and its oil resources.</p>
<p>Of course Israel is a very powerful country with modern technological weapons, that with a batter of<br />
an eye can destroy and take over the whole area. Under the false pretenses of regaining their promised land.</p>
<p>Let us  take into consideration that Israel has many nuclear warheads in its arsenal, which have been<br />
supplied by western countries, and I do believe that this has been, and can be a threat to the whole middle east.<br />
Infact since the state of Israel was illegally established in 1948. It has destabilized the status quo of the whole<br />
middle east There have been nothing but killings, genocide, border disputes, reprisals, human rights abuses, constant<br />
bickering, mass corruption. Mind you,  I have nothing against Israel, but in my opinion, the state of Israel was erected<br />
on stolen land. And I believe this problem will never be resolved until, this stolen land will be returned to its<br />
rightful owners.</p>
<p>Maybe Iran, has started its nuclear program as a precaution to defend itself against a possible attack<br />
from Israel. Or it could be that it really has the intention to use its atomic energy for peaceful use. This<br />
we will never know. What their real intentions are.</p>
<p>But in all fairnes this whole problem can be resolved  through the UN, by abolishing all nuclear arsenals<br />
and create a fearless atmosphere, across  severe controls by the UN.  And  permit   nuclear energy to be<br />
used for  producing electricity only.</p>
<p>And at the sametime a real concrete solution must be enacted for resolving the exsistence of the state of Israel.<br />
Either the state will be abolished through legal manuvers by the UN. Or create a neutral demiliterized  state. under<br />
the control of the UN. Or establishing a state where freedom will exist. Freedom of religion, freedom for all those<br />
who want to break away from their age old culture and start a new life under a democratic system. Something like<br />
being another US state. Where there would be justice and freedom for all, And I believe that many who are dissatisfied<br />
with their way of life in their countries  would surely populate it. It would be a place to escape for many dissidents who<br />
are fighting a needles battle to try and change the old age mentality of their countries that they live in. </p>
<p>By having this spearhead head of a freedom existing state in the middle east, eventually the old age mentality of other states being<br />
repressive would lose its  hold on its people.  I believe that freedom of choice, human rights, free elections, separation between<br />
religion and state. Would be a very powerful lethal arm against dictators, human rights abusers, repressive laws which deny<br />
the basic human rights, as well as fanatical religious indoctrination that control people&#8217;s mind to promote evil towards their fellow<br />
man who do not believe in  their way of worship.</p>
<p>Well.these are my free opinions, some may be realistic, and some may be part of my fantasy. But it is important that we are still<br />
free to express them. And I wish that all would have this same privilege.</p>
<p>Sammy From Sicily</p>
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		<title>By: USA / Roy G</title>
		<link>http://www.balkingpoints.com/balk/archives/921#comment-1705</link>
		<dc:creator>USA / Roy G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice job on this Balk Martin. Many nations will acquire nuclear technology in this century, and a viable checkpoint for proliferation is not going to be stopping it cold. And there are clear sovereignty incursions, to nations that need the electrical power to upgrade living standards.

Which is many nations. The only hope is to hold in check nuclear weapons proliferation, with voluntary inspections and carrot/stick economic measures. And the willingness of present-day nuclear powers to reduce their arsenals. Which the promise of, was part of Obama winning that Nobel Peace Prize. We shall see.

Western media is in it for the sensational hype of it all, clearly. Ahmadinejad has a future on CNN after he is deposed...   ;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job on this Balk Martin. Many nations will acquire nuclear technology in this century, and a viable checkpoint for proliferation is not going to be stopping it cold. And there are clear sovereignty incursions, to nations that need the electrical power to upgrade living standards.</p>
<p>Which is many nations. The only hope is to hold in check nuclear weapons proliferation, with voluntary inspections and carrot/stick economic measures. And the willingness of present-day nuclear powers to reduce their arsenals. Which the promise of, was part of Obama winning that Nobel Peace Prize. We shall see.</p>
<p>Western media is in it for the sensational hype of it all, clearly. Ahmadinejad has a future on CNN after he is deposed&#8230;   ;^)</p>
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